Unfortunately, no. This is for an AR, and the upper is a 16" 1-14 twist with a carbine length gas tube. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. I use the guns. $49.99. I have to point out that, unless youre shooting at steel plates that are both rifle-rated and placed 100 yards away, you shouldnt be shooting steel with any .458 SOCOM load. May I suggest investing in 458-specific magazines? So please stop asking to exchange or get a refund for ammo you ordered, but have changed your mind about. the unsubscribe link (where available) in one of our messages. Overall Length) is 2.25 and some bullets are just too long to meet that COAL limit. Acme bullets makes a .458 SOCOM-specific bullet thats 576 grains in weight and given a bright red Hi-Tek coating. Where the .458 SOCOM gets to be giddy fun is when you go with heavyweight subsonics. by WhisperFan Mon May 31, 2010 9:41 pm, Post The content presented here is intended to inform, to educate, and even to entertain. including messages sent by autodialer. Now, that last part is a bit more, shall we say, variable, than the others. Game animals. Item 47F----1075 fpsItem 47G----1115 fps, Item47G - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities. by Bendersquint Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:00 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. It fired suppressed out of bolt-action rifles and, with a 500-grain bullet, was subsonic. Due to this it doesn't have as wide a variety of projectiles to choose from. bullets at subsonic velocities, and the Barnes .458 x 1.5" briefly saw service in Vietnam in the Special Operations community. Last I looked, factory ammo is running $50+ for 20 rounds. Impact velocity = 975 fps, resulted 14 inches intoa BULLET TEST TUBE. HARD CAST GC FN (1115 fps)20 Round Box. In order for us to accomplish this for our customers, we ask the following. Building the .458 SOCOM takes only two caliber specific parts-a .458 specific bolt and barrel- Wilson Combat is further optimizing their .458 SOCOM rifles by adding an adjustable gas block, extra power action spring and straight gas tube as a standard reliability upgrade. Where the .458 SOCOM gets to be giddy fun is when you go with heavyweight subsonics. little update. Slow factory 1-18" twist prohibits using any heavier long range bullets. .458-405 GRAIN HOLLOW POINT- This bullets lead mushroom measures .550, and the jacket measures .600. Oh, hey, theres a complete rifle on the end of the rack with a shot-out bore. there is a throat limit in the 458 SOCOM chamber where it will not accommodate some types of For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. Out of Stock. Post Next up, the case. Minor machining has also been performed to the ejection port opening of the upper receiver to allow clearance for the larger cartridge. . You have successfully joined our subscriber list. The noise, not so much. Its the standard rim diameter of the .30-06 family of cartridges, along with the 8mm Mauser and such. I use the guns. JHP (High Power) In Stock $ 41.99 Backorder 458 SOCOM 300gr. bullets. Please go to Appearance > Sidebars and drag a widget into User Submit Sidebar. Will be shipped via: FEDERAL EXPRESS - GROUND ACTUAL SHIPPING CHARGES, Beretta / Glock / SIG / M&P / Revolver / XD / H&K, .458 SOCOM | 250GR, HORNADY MFX, 1850 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, NOSLER BT, 1725 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, HORNADY HP, 1700 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, X-TREME RNFP, 1700 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 350GR, HORNADY SP, 1675 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX. In 2009, Barnesdeveloped a new bullet specifically for use in the .458 SOCOM, the 300 grainTipped Triple Shock X, also known as the TTSX or TAC-X. $49.60. It was shown as effective in terms of ballistics, firing a 500 grainbullet subsonically, but not ideally suited for its role due to the size andweight of the platform. Field tests have shown to knock Whitetail deer to the ground with authority andinflictlarge exit wounds. In particular, the reports from members of Task Force Ranger in The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. The fragmenting design of these bullets reduce the chance of ricochet. Hodgdons Powder Guide on line and other internet sources. SBR has been the leader in factory .458 SOCOM production since its creation in 2001 and has continued to research and innovate in the ballistics testing and manufacturing of this high powered cartridge. Please sit tight. CIP in Europe. Because of the big bullet diameter and deep-penetrating bullet, this load is appropriate for 2,000 lb. After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Corp in Broken Arrow, OK was contacted to build the first prototype. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet,seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPScharted. Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or when will my ammo ship? The impetus was an informal ("beer and barbeque") discussion with a senior member of the US The chamber pressure limits are calculated based upon the bolt thrust force vs the diameter of The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. Research had indicated thata short belted cartridge called the .458 1.5 Barnes had been adopted foruse in suppressed bolt action rifles for use in SE Asia during the VietnamWar. Based on the favorable reviews, commercial production was started and the initial rifles were produced by Tromix. The project sponsor set forth a number of specific requirements that led tothe ultimate design as it stands right now: The cartridge had to fit in theM-4 platform and magazines, be capable of firing heavy-for-caliber projectilesat subsonic velocity using suppressors. I'm actually in the process of building myself a suppressed .458 Socom, but in an AR platform. - Winston Churchill. If that latter number looks familiar, it is. The guns eat lead. Consent is not a condition of any purchase. The .458 SOCOM feeds flawlessly from many standard unmodified 5.56 AR magazines. Save my name and email to use for future comments. Look at these big fat pills!! If youre interested in lower-cost fun thumping, then you can use coated bullets and load subsonic. (Thanks to Wikipediafor above paragraphs), (Note: Many are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. In our opinion the .458 SOCOM has several design and performance advantages over the.450 Bushmaster and the .500 Beowulf including improved functional reliability and the use of a standard AR magazine. The impetus was an informal ("beer and barbeque") discussion with a . Well, actuallyyou might want some. These cartridges are equipped with an ultra heavy-weight 550-grainfull metal jacketed bullet, which is the heaviest 458 SOCOM bullet that SBR produces. Right now, we expect you to do your part to help us all get the ammo we need in our troubled country. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. And whatever youre shooting at gets thumpedhard. 500 grain 458 hollow point with cut jacket. posted on May 13, 2021. I grabbed a Brownells barrel and bolt off the shelf and looked for build candidates. Still stalled out, but thinking about re-starting the project. The heavier than standard grain weight and subsonic speeds make this cartridge well-suited for use with suppressors. Additionally, Item 47F andItem 47G will handle subsonic, suppressed sniping, (to about 200 yards) or close range hunting needs on 2,000+ lb. I am only considering the .458 Socom because it uses a shoulder, and these heavy bullets. Due to Department of Transportation regulations, we cannot accept returns on Ammunition. The .458 Subsonic Controlled Fracturing was designed for outstanding terminal subsonic performance for suppressed bolt gun or single shot applications. Teppo Jutsu saw no need to change the primer pocket. Also, in late 2020, the CIP Committee reached out to SBR about the 458 SOCOM, and in November 2021 the 458 SOCOM was CIP approved. Known as the .458 x 1.5-inch Barnes, it was the predecessor to the .458 SOCOM. Mogadishu, Somalia that multiple shots were required to neutralize members of the opposing We have hundreds of customers to get orders to on a daily basis. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. The required barrel twist rate for stability with a muzzle velocity of 1,050 fps is 1:10. There is still alot of experimenting with loads and blogs as of 2012 are the best source. Up in the midrange bullets300-, 350- and 400-grainersyou can jar your fillings with velocities in the 1,500- to 1,700-fps range. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. flat nosed hard cast bullet features a gas checked, very hard bullet that will not lead foul your barrel and will not foul your gas port. ), Lee 90440 Round Ball Mold W/ Handles Each Double Cavity .451. 458 SOCOM SUBSONIC HUNTING & SNIPING AMMO500 gr. Full.Lead.Taco 100% 4.34K Views 9 Likes November 9, 2018 By Full.Lead.Taco 8 Comments Links to the bullet molds: 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove Full.Lead.Taco I love guns, tacos, and lead. Sub MOA to 75 yards and then something strange is going on. This allows you abetter chance of destroying vitals. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. It uses large pistol primers and slow-burning pistol powders or fast-burning rifle powders. If youre using a carbine with a 16-inch barrel, you might fall a few fps short of that. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. 2. Pick the handguard back off the bench, install, align, tighten. Details. My 15" barrel Thompson-Center Encore pistol in 500 S&W Magnum launches a 385 gr Remington core-locked hollow point bullet at 960-1000 fps using a completely full case worth of Trail Boss powder. By entering your phone number and submitting this form, Thatd be with the Polycase ARX ammunition. Taylor Knock-Out Factor Calculations What it takes to knock-out big game. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. Check alignment and also check eye relief. We have LOTS of ammo in stock and are making more at a huge volume on a daily basis. The Maker Overwatch Field 500gr 458 SOCOM ammo utilizes the Maker Bullets 500gr 458 SOCOM REX expanding solid copper projectile. None of the .50 variants I found had any shoulder to headspace on. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. Our extensive testing has found the Lancer L5 AWM magazine to be optimal for this round. Though the 1.5-inch Barnes was the wrong size and weight for the M4 platform, it inspired Tony Rumore and Mary ter Weeme to develop the SOCOM round. the cartridge. Bullets are seated out too far for revolver use. The .458-inch bullets can provide better exterior ballistics, better Sectional Density and deeper penetration, especially on big and tough game animals. After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Corp in Broken Arrow, OK was contacted to build the first prototype. If you are using a rangefinder and proper optics, there is no reason not to snipe with this load out to 200 yards. Both had been designed to fire the heavy (500 - 600 gr.) History Inspired by a supposed lack of power offered by the 5.56 NATOcartridge used in the M4 and the M16, the .458 SOCOM came about from informaldiscussion of members of the special operations community, specifically TaskForce Rangers experience that multiple shots were required to neutralizemembers of the opposing force in Mogadishu during Operation Gothic Serpent.Marty ter Weeme designed the cartridge in 2000 and Tony Rumore of Tromix, Incwas contracted to build the first .458 SOCOM rifle in February 2001.